Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Palafin's top six counters needs 1.50 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.88 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 6:53. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 25.

Palafin · Tier 5

water

Weak to

grasselectric

Boss CP: 24,400
Boss HP: 15,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Palafin at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.16)	3(2.15)	3(2.65)	9:52	6.0
Level 25	2(1.82)	2(1.85)	3(2.29)	8:30	6.0
Level 30	2(1.59)	2(1.65)	3(2.05)	7:36	5.9
Level 35	2(1.47)	2(1.57)	2(1.95)	7:13	5.8
Level 40	2(1.40)	2(1.50)	2(1.88)	6:53	5.8
Level 45	2(1.36)	2(1.44)	2(1.80)	6:39	5.6
Level 50	2(1.31)	2(1.39)	2(1.75)	6:25	5.5

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Regieleki1.40

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Regieleki1.40
Thundurus (Therian)1.50
Zeraora1.50
Xurkitree1.51
Kartana1.51
Zekrom1.57

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Rillaboom1.77
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.79
Roserade1.81
Zapdos1.88
Tapu Bulu1.88
Magnezone1.87

The party these numbers assume

1. Regieleki

Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage

2. Thundurus (Therian)

Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm

3. Zeraora

Volt Switch + Plasma Fists

4. Xurkitree

Thunder Shock + Discharge

5. Kartana

Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade

6. Zekrom

Charge Beam + Fusion Bolt

See the full ranked counter list for Palafin · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.