Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 21,079
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 5(4.11) | 5(4.56) | 6(5.79) | 20:58 | 5.4 |
| Level 25 | 4(3.45) | 5(4.04) | 6(5.05) | 18:34 | 5.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.21) | 4(3.65) | 5(4.50) | 16:46 | 4.3 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.09) | 4(3.50) | 5(4.33) | 16:06 | 4.2 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.85) | 4(3.32) | 5(4.17) | 15:16 | 3.9 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.78) | 4(3.21) | 5(4.03) | 14:45 | 3.6 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.71) | 4(3.13) | 4(3.93) | 14:23 | 3.3 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)2.85
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)2.85
- Groudon3.27
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.38
- Eternatus3.38
- Excadrill3.46
- Mamoswine3.57
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)3.94
- Golurk3.99
- Rhydon3.99
- Keldeo4.04
- Blacephalon4.11
- Mudsdale4.19
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Pachirisu · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.