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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 23h 20m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Nidorino's top six counters needs 2.06 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.48 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 9:30. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 45.
Nidorino · Elite
poison
Weak to
groundpsychic
Boss CP
24,129
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Nidorino at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.66)4(3.05)4(3.55)14:025.8
Level 253(2.29)3(2.52)4(3.06)11:365.6
Level 303(2.05)3(2.27)3(2.72)10:265.5
Level 352(1.93)3(2.17)3(2.60)9:595.4
Level 402(1.86)3(2.06)3(2.48)9:305.3
Level 452(1.80)2(1.99)3(2.39)9:105.2
Level 502(1.73)2(1.94)3(2.29)8:565.1

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Mewtwo1.86

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Mewtwo1.86
  • Hoopa (Unbound)2.00
  • Landorus (Therian)2.08
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)2.08
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.11
  • Lunala2.26

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Espeon2.36
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.38
  • Metagross2.41
  • Excadrill2.45
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.45
  • Azelf2.44

The party these numbers assume

1. Mewtwo
Confusion + Psystrike
2. Hoopa (Unbound)
Confusion + Psychic
3. Landorus (Therian)
Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm
4. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Psycho Cut + Sunsteel Strike
5. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam
6. Lunala
Confusion + Psychic

See the full ranked counter list for Nidorino · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.