Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Nidoking's top six counters needs 0.56 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.67 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:38. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.

Nidoking · Tier 3

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Weak to

groundwaterpsychicice

Boss CP: 17,182
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Nidoking at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	1(0.71)	1(0.81)	2(1.01)	2:22	5.4
Level 25	1(0.60)	1(0.68)	1(0.86)	1:59	4.2
Level 30	1(0.55)	1(0.61)	1(0.74)	1:47	3.3
Level 35	1(0.52)	1(0.58)	1(0.70)	1:42	3.0
Level 40	1(0.49)	1(0.56)	1(0.67)	1:38	2.7
Level 45	1(0.48)	1(0.54)	1(0.65)	1:35	2.5
Level 50	1(0.44)	1(0.52)	1(0.62)	1:31	2.2

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Kyurem (White)0.49

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Kyurem (White)0.49
Mewtwo0.52
Kyurem (Black)0.54
Landorus (Therian)0.59
Hoopa (Unbound)0.58
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.62

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Regigigas0.66
Quaquaval0.66
Eternatus0.66
Hoopa0.66
Kingler0.67
Alakazam0.68

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)

Ice Fang + Ice Burn

2. Mewtwo

Confusion + Psystrike

3. Kyurem (Black)

Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock

4. Landorus (Therian)

Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm

5. Hoopa (Unbound)

Confusion + Psychic

6. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)

Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Nidoking · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.