Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 17,252
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.98) | 3(2.23) | 3(3.00) | 10:15 | 5.5 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.70) | 2(1.95) | 3(2.64) | 8:57 | 4.7 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.53) | 2(1.78) | 3(2.38) | 8:11 | 4.0 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.48) | 2(1.70) | 3(2.28) | 7:49 | 3.8 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.40) | 2(1.64) | 3(2.18) | 7:33 | 3.7 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.37) | 2(1.57) | 3(2.12) | 7:15 | 3.3 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.35) | 2(1.53) | 3(2.04) | 7:02 | 3.1 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.40
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.40
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.51
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)1.51
- Keldeo1.69
- Lucario1.82
- Kartana1.90
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Groudon2.11
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.13
- Shaymin (Sky)2.13
- Breloom2.16
- Conkeldurr2.16
- Hisuian Decidueye2.17
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Nacli · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.