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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 22h 25m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Mr. Rime's top six counters needs 1.55 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.16 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 7:08. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 25.
Mr. Rime · Tier 5
icepsychic
Weak to
rockbugghoststeelfiredark
Boss CP
38,723
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Mr. Rime at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 202(1.98)3(2.28)4(3.09)10:286.0
Level 252(1.69)2(1.94)3(2.66)8:565.9
Level 302(1.53)2(1.70)3(2.38)7:505.7
Level 352(1.48)2(1.63)3(2.26)7:305.6
Level 402(1.37)2(1.55)3(2.16)7:085.3
Level 452(1.33)2(1.50)3(2.09)6:535.2
Level 502(1.31)2(1.45)2(2.00)6:395.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.37

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.37
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.42
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)1.44
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.50
  • Blacephalon1.71
  • Metagross1.86

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Hydreigon2.06
  • Cinderace2.13
  • Dialga (Origin)2.12
  • Tyranitar2.13
  • Rampardos2.14
  • Absol2.16

The party these numbers assume

1. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Blade
2. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Metal Claw + Sunsteel Strike
3. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash
4. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Metal Claw + Moongeist Beam
5. Blacephalon
Astonish + Mind Blown
6. Metagross
Fury Cutter + Meteor Mash

See the full ranked counter list for Mr. Rime · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.