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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 21h 35m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Minun's top six counters needs 1.79 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.25 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 8:14. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 30.
Minun · Tier 5
electric
Weak to
ground
Boss CP
25,486
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Minun at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.20)3(2.47)4(3.20)11:225.6
Level 252(1.97)3(2.18)3(2.78)10:025.1
Level 302(1.74)2(1.97)3(2.48)9:034.8
Level 352(1.66)2(1.86)3(2.37)8:354.5
Level 402(1.55)2(1.79)3(2.25)8:144.4
Level 452(1.51)2(1.74)3(2.18)7:594.1
Level 502(1.47)2(1.67)3(2.12)7:424.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Landorus (Therian)1.55

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Landorus (Therian)1.55
  • Groudon1.74
  • Eternatus1.81
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.85
  • Excadrill1.88
  • Garchomp1.90

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)2.13
  • Blacephalon2.17
  • Golurk2.15
  • Krookodile2.19
  • Rhydon2.27
  • Mudsdale2.28

The party these numbers assume

1. Landorus (Therian)
Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm
2. Groudon
Mud Shot + Precipice Blades
3. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon
4. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam
5. Excadrill
Mud-Slap + Scorching Sands
6. Garchomp
Mud Shot + Earth Power

See the full ranked counter list for Minun · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.