Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 6 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 104,400
- Boss HP
- 25,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.55) | 7(6.59) | 9(8.74) | 30:19 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 5(4.57) | 6(5.60) | 8(7.20) | 25:45 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.80) | 5(4.94) | 7(6.08) | 22:44 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.64) | 5(4.68) | 6(5.63) | 21:31 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.40) | 5(4.36) | 6(5.35) | 20:04 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.31) | 5(4.23) | 6(5.12) | 19:28 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 4(3.14) | 5(4.09) | 5(4.90) | 18:50 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.40
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
5 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.40
- Lunala4.39
- Darkrai4.50
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.58
- Hydreigon4.63
- Tyranitar4.67
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
6 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (Black)4.90
- Kingambit5.07
- Yveltal5.25
- Mewtwo5.31
- Vikavolt5.34
- Incineroar5.24
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mega Mewtwo Y · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.