Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 35,785
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.32) | 4(3.61) | 5(4.87) | 16:36 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.91) | 4(3.09) | 5(4.14) | 14:13 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.54) | 3(2.73) | 4(3.68) | 12:34 | 5.9 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.40) | 3(2.58) | 4(3.49) | 11:53 | 5.9 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.31) | 3(2.47) | 4(3.34) | 11:23 | 5.8 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.23) | 3(2.39) | 4(3.20) | 10:59 | 5.8 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.12) | 3(2.31) | 4(3.10) | 10:37 | 5.7 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Regieleki2.31
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Regieleki2.31
- Zeraora2.39
- Xurkitree2.40
- Thundurus (Therian)2.46
- Zekrom2.49
- Electivire2.79
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
4 trainers at level 40
- Deoxys3.20
- Vikavolt3.21
- Jolteon3.21
- Manectric3.31
- Thundurus (Incarnate)3.31
- Alolan Golem3.30
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mantine · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.