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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Lycanroc (Midnight)'s top six counters needs 2.27 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.04 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 10:26. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Lycanroc (Midnight) · Elite
rock
Weak to
fightinggroundsteelwatergrass
Boss CP
42,582
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Lycanroc (Midnight) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.83)4(3.26)5(4.46)15:006.0
Level 253(2.45)3(2.82)4(3.85)12:596.0
Level 303(2.23)3(2.53)4(3.41)11:385.8
Level 353(2.08)3(2.36)4(3.23)10:525.8
Level 402(1.99)3(2.27)4(3.04)10:265.7
Level 452(1.96)3(2.20)3(2.95)10:075.7
Level 502(1.83)3(2.12)3(2.84)9:465.6

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.99

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.99
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.00
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)2.05
  • Keldeo2.28
  • Lucario2.61
  • Terrakion2.66

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Zarude2.96
  • Shaymin (Sky)2.98
  • Urshifu (Single Strike)3.00
  • Kyogre3.00
  • Hisuian Decidueye3.01
  • Urshifu (Rapid Strike)3.04

The party these numbers assume

1. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Blade
2. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash
3. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Metal Claw + Sunsteel Strike
4. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
5. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
6. Terrakion
Double Kick + Sacred Sword

See the full ranked counter list for Lycanroc (Midnight) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.