Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 7 to be safe — 6 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 53,029
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 8(7.05) | 9(8.55) | 10(9.84) | 39:21 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 7(6.25) | 7(6.88) | 8(7.94) | 31:40 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 6(5.70) | 6(5.85) | 7(6.97) | 26:54 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 5(4.75) | 6(5.31) | 7(6.58) | 24:27 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 5(4.48) | 6(5.03) | 7(6.31) | 23:08 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 5(4.39) | 5(4.90) | 7(6.03) | 22:32 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 5(4.15) | 5(4.63) | 6(5.79) | 21:17 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
5 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)4.48
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
6 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)4.48
- Kyurem (White)4.57
- Kyurem (Black)4.79
- Xurkitree5.35
- Zeraora5.46
- Thundurus (Therian)5.54
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
7 trainers at level 40
- Darkrai6.08
- Giratina (Origin)6.12
- Regieleki6.13
- Hydreigon6.10
- Electivire6.20
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)6.26
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Lugia · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.