Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 24,543
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.35) | 3(2.88) | 4(3.32) | 13:15 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.05) | 3(2.47) | 3(2.89) | 11:23 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.90) | 3(2.22) | 3(2.58) | 10:13 | 5.9 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.79) | 3(2.09) | 3(2.48) | 9:38 | 5.8 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.73) | 3(2.02) | 3(2.38) | 9:18 | 5.7 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.69) | 2(1.95) | 3(2.31) | 8:59 | 5.5 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.65) | 2(1.89) | 3(2.21) | 8:42 | 5.4 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Keldeo1.73
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Keldeo1.73
- Terrakion2.02
- Blaziken2.05
- Landorus (Therian)2.08
- Lucario2.10
- Inteleon2.16
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Eternatus2.30
- Groudon2.30
- Quaquaval2.34
- Kingler2.37
- Rhyperior2.38
- Greninja2.37
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Litleo · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.