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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Hisuian Lilligant's top six counters needs 1.86 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.39 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 8:34. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 35.
Hisuian Lilligant · Elite
grassfighting
Weak to
flyingpoisonfirepsychicicefairy
Boss CP
41,600
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Hisuian Lilligant at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.24)3(2.77)4(3.64)12:466.0
Level 252(1.98)3(2.38)4(3.09)10:566.0
Level 302(1.72)3(2.06)3(2.66)9:286.0
Level 352(1.66)2(1.95)3(2.52)8:586.0
Level 402(1.59)2(1.86)3(2.39)8:346.0
Level 452(1.53)2(1.79)3(2.32)8:146.0
Level 502(1.46)2(1.73)3(2.22)7:585.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Rayquaza1.59

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Rayquaza1.59
  • Enamorus (Incarnate)1.87
  • Yveltal1.89
  • Moltres1.88
  • Toucannon1.93
  • Salamence2.02

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Honchkrow2.21
  • Lugia2.23
  • Galarian Moltres2.30
  • Unfezant2.37
  • Flamigo2.35
  • Galarian Zapdos2.40

The party these numbers assume

1. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
2. Enamorus (Incarnate)
Fairy Wind + Fly
3. Yveltal
Gust + Oblivion Wing
4. Moltres
Wing Attack + Fly
5. Toucannon
Peck + Beak Blast
6. Salamence
Fire Fang + Fly

See the full ranked counter list for Hisuian Lilligant · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.