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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Hisuian Lilligant's top six counters needs 1.11 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.42 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 5:06. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 20.
Hisuian Lilligant · Tier 5
grassfighting
Weak to
flyingpoisonfirepsychicicefairy
Boss CP
36,026
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Hisuian Lilligant at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 202(1.34)2(1.61)3(2.07)7:236.0
Level 252(1.14)2(1.37)2(1.77)6:176.0
Level 302(1.03)2(1.21)2(1.56)5:335.9
Level 351(0.97)2(1.15)2(1.48)5:175.8
Level 401(0.92)2(1.11)2(1.42)5:065.6
Level 451(0.90)2(1.07)2(1.37)4:545.5
Level 501(0.87)2(1.03)2(1.32)4:445.4

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Rayquaza0.92

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Rayquaza0.92
  • Enamorus (Incarnate)1.12
  • Moltres1.12
  • Yveltal1.13
  • Toucannon1.18
  • Galarian Articuno1.18

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Hisuian Braviary1.33
  • Lugia1.34
  • Galarian Moltres1.38
  • Flamigo1.40
  • Tornadus (Incarnate)1.41
  • Galarian Zapdos1.42

The party these numbers assume

1. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
2. Enamorus (Incarnate)
Fairy Wind + Fly
3. Moltres
Wing Attack + Fly
4. Yveltal
Gust + Oblivion Wing
5. Toucannon
Peck + Beak Blast
6. Galarian Articuno
Psycho Cut + Fly

See the full ranked counter list for Hisuian Lilligant · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.