Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Latios's top six counters needs 1.93 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.49 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 8:52. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 40.

Latios · Tier 5

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Weak to

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Boss CP: 52,220
Boss HP: 15,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Latios at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.36)	3(2.97)	4(3.86)	13:39	6.0
Level 25	3(2.04)	3(2.41)	4(3.27)	11:06	6.0
Level 30	2(1.75)	3(2.14)	3(2.78)	9:50	6.0
Level 35	2(1.71)	3(2.02)	3(2.62)	9:17	6.0
Level 40	2(1.62)	2(1.93)	3(2.49)	8:52	5.9
Level 45	2(1.57)	2(1.85)	3(2.40)	8:31	5.9
Level 50	2(1.50)	2(1.79)	3(2.31)	8:15	5.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Eternatus1.62

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Eternatus1.62
Kyurem (Black)1.79
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.89
Kyurem (White)1.92
Baxcalibur2.15
Rayquaza2.18

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

Dragapult2.35
Salamence2.44
Darkrai2.43
Blacephalon2.50
Giratina (Origin)2.49
Palkia2.50

The party these numbers assume

1. Eternatus

Dragon Tail + Dynamax Cannon

2. Kyurem (Black)

Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock

3. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)

Shadow Claw + Moongeist Beam

4. Kyurem (White)

Dragon Breath + Ice Burn

5. Baxcalibur

Ice Fang + Glaive Rush

6. Rayquaza

Dragon Tail + Breaking Swipe

See the full ranked counter list for Latios · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.