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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Landorus (Therian)'s top six counters needs 1.05 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.43 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 3:05. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 50. A duo works from level 20.
Landorus (Therian) · Shadow Tier 3
groundflying
Weak to
icewater
Boss CP
26,779
Boss HP
4,000
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Landorus (Therian) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 202(1.36)2(1.91)3(2.21)5:366.0
Level 252(1.04)2(1.49)2(1.88)4:226.0
Level 301(0.83)2(1.24)2(1.60)3:386.0
Level 351(0.78)2(1.14)2(1.51)3:205.9
Level 401(0.72)2(1.05)2(1.43)3:055.8
Level 451(0.72)2(1.01)2(1.35)2:575.7
Level 501(0.69)1(0.97)2(1.28)2:505.6

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.72

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.72
  • Kyurem (Black)0.93
  • Baxcalibur1.08
  • Mamoswine1.16
  • Cetitan1.18
  • Mewtwo1.26

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Avalugg1.36
  • Cryogonal1.39
  • Articuno1.39
  • Weavile1.41
  • Mr. Rime1.41
  • Aurorus1.43

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
3. Baxcalibur
Ice Fang + Avalanche
4. Mamoswine
Powder Snow + Avalanche
5. Cetitan
Ice Shard + Avalanche
6. Mewtwo
Psycho Cut + Ice Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Landorus (Therian) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.