Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 59,881
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.66) | 6(5.16) | 7(6.01) | 23:46 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.82) | 5(4.12) | 5(4.88) | 18:56 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.06) | 4(3.20) | 5(4.16) | 14:43 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.92) | 3(2.94) | 4(3.90) | 13:32 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.81) | 3(2.63) | 4(3.72) | 12:05 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.74) | 3(2.47) | 4(3.52) | 11:22 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.68) | 3(2.36) | 4(3.32) | 10:51 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.81
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.81
- Kyurem (Black)2.35
- Baxcalibur2.70
- Mamoswine2.92
- Cetitan2.95
- Mewtwo3.04
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
4 trainers at level 40
- Articuno3.54
- Walrein3.64
- Abomasnow3.67
- Mew3.71
- Galarian Darmanitan (Standard)3.66
- Jynx3.71
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Landorus (Therian) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.