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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 15h 45m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Landorus (Therian)'s top six counters needs 2.63 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.72 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 12:05. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Landorus (Therian) · Elite
groundflying
Weak to
icewater
Boss CP
59,881
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Landorus (Therian) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 204(3.66)6(5.16)7(6.01)23:466.0
Level 253(2.82)5(4.12)5(4.88)18:566.0
Level 303(2.06)4(3.20)5(4.16)14:436.0
Level 352(1.92)3(2.94)4(3.90)13:326.0
Level 402(1.81)3(2.63)4(3.72)12:056.0
Level 452(1.74)3(2.47)4(3.52)11:226.0
Level 502(1.68)3(2.36)4(3.32)10:516.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.81

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.81
  • Kyurem (Black)2.35
  • Baxcalibur2.70
  • Mamoswine2.92
  • Cetitan2.95
  • Mewtwo3.04

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Articuno3.54
  • Walrein3.64
  • Abomasnow3.67
  • Mew3.71
  • Galarian Darmanitan (Standard)3.66
  • Jynx3.71

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
3. Baxcalibur
Ice Fang + Avalanche
4. Mamoswine
Powder Snow + Avalanche
5. Cetitan
Ice Shard + Avalanche
6. Mewtwo
Psycho Cut + Ice Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Landorus (Therian) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.