Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 6 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 62,829
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 8(7.08) | 8(7.29) | 9(8.37) | 33:33 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 7(6.53) | 7(6.13) | 8(7.32) | 28:13 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 6(5.35) | 6(5.28) | 7(6.31) | 24:17 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 5(4.92) | 5(4.85) | 6(5.88) | 22:18 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 5(4.38) | 5(4.53) | 6(5.54) | 20:52 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 5(4.08) | 5(4.26) | 6(5.23) | 19:36 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 4(3.88) | 5(4.03) | 5(4.99) | 18:34 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
5 trainers at level 40
- Zeraora4.38
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
5 trainers at level 40
- Zeraora4.38
- Zekrom4.51
- Kartana4.58
- Xurkitree4.52
- Eternatus4.62
- Zarude4.60
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
6 trainers at level 40
- Electivire5.28
- Meowscarada5.45
- Chesnaught5.50
- Shaymin (Land)5.42
- Keldeo5.39
- Zapdos5.56
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Kyogre · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.