Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Kartana's top six counters needs 1.30 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.55 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 6:00. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 20.

Kartana · Tier 5

grasssteel

Weak to

firefighting

Boss CP: 58,102
Boss HP: 15,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Kartana at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.09)	2(1.97)	3(2.38)	9:04	6.0
Level 25	2(1.63)	2(1.65)	2(1.97)	7:36	6.0
Level 30	2(1.39)	2(1.45)	2(1.73)	6:39	5.9
Level 35	2(1.25)	2(1.37)	2(1.63)	6:18	5.9
Level 40	2(1.17)	2(1.30)	2(1.55)	6:00	5.8
Level 45	2(1.09)	2(1.24)	2(1.49)	5:43	5.7
Level 50	2(1.05)	2(1.19)	2(1.44)	5:30	5.7

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Blacephalon1.17

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Blacephalon1.17
Reshiram1.17
Heatran1.35
Ho-Oh1.37
Volcarona1.39
Cinderace1.37

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Emboar1.46
Entei1.52
Victini1.51
Incineroar1.53
Infernape1.54
Flareon1.56

The party these numbers assume

1. Blacephalon

Incinerate + Mind Blown

2. Reshiram

Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

3. Heatran

Fire Spin + Magma Storm

4. Ho-Oh

Incinerate + Sacred Fire++

5. Volcarona

Fire Spin + Overheat

6. Cinderace

Fire Spin + Pyroball

See the full ranked counter list for Kartana · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.