Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Houndour's top six counters needs 1.57 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.86 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 7:13. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 25.

Houndour · Elite

darkfire

Weak to

fightinggroundrockwater

Boss CP: 23,380
Boss HP: 20,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Houndour at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	2(1.85)	3(2.26)	3(2.68)	10:23	6.0
Level 25	2(1.62)	2(1.93)	3(2.29)	8:52	6.0
Level 30	2(1.43)	2(1.71)	3(2.04)	7:53	6.0
Level 35	2(1.40)	2(1.63)	2(1.94)	7:30	6.0
Level 40	2(1.35)	2(1.57)	2(1.86)	7:13	6.0
Level 45	2(1.30)	2(1.52)	2(1.78)	7:00	5.9
Level 50	2(1.27)	2(1.46)	2(1.72)	6:44	5.7

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Keldeo1.35

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Keldeo1.35
Terrakion1.55
Lucario1.58
Blaziken1.60
Landorus (Therian)1.63
Kyogre1.69

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Eternatus1.79
Groudon1.80
Greninja1.82
Quaquaval1.84
Glimmora1.83
Rhyperior1.84

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo

Low Kick + Secret Sword

2. Terrakion

Double Kick + Sacred Sword

3. Lucario

Force Palm + Aura Sphere

4. Blaziken

Counter + Aura Sphere

5. Landorus (Therian)

Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm

6. Kyogre

Waterfall + Origin Pulse

See the full ranked counter list for Houndour · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.