Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 20,247
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.10) | 2(1.31) | 2(1.61) | 6:02 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 1(0.98) | 2(1.14) | 2(1.39) | 5:15 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.87) | 2(1.02) | 2(1.21) | 4:42 | 5.6 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.84) | 1(0.97) | 2(1.16) | 4:28 | 5.5 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.80) | 1(0.93) | 2(1.10) | 4:18 | 5.3 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.79) | 1(0.89) | 2(1.06) | 4:07 | 5.0 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.75) | 1(0.87) | 2(1.02) | 3:59 | 4.8 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Keldeo0.80
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Keldeo0.80
- Lucario0.93
- Terrakion0.93
- Blaziken0.97
- Landorus (Therian)0.96
- Inteleon1.01
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kartana1.05
- Eternatus1.05
- Glimmora1.06
- Quaquaval1.09
- Rhyperior1.10
- Greninja1.10
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Houndour · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.