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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Hoopa (Unbound)'s top six counters needs 0.55 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.68 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:37. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Hoopa (Unbound) · Tier 3
psychicdark
Weak to
bugfairy
Boss CP
28,073
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Hoopa (Unbound) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.99)1(0.84)2(1.07)2:286.0
Level 251(0.71)1(0.70)1(0.89)2:045.9
Level 301(0.62)1(0.64)1(0.76)1:525.4
Level 351(0.60)1(0.59)1(0.71)1:434.9
Level 401(0.53)1(0.55)1(0.68)1:374.2
Level 451(0.51)1(0.53)1(0.65)1:323.6
Level 501(0.50)1(0.50)1(0.62)1:293.4

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kartana0.53

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kartana0.53
  • Volcarona0.55
  • Genesect0.55
  • Genesect (Burn)0.55
  • Genesect (Chill)0.55
  • Genesect (Douse)0.55

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Golisopod0.62
  • Centiskorch0.62
  • Escavalier0.66
  • Yanmega0.66
  • Durant0.68
  • Frosmoth0.67

The party these numbers assume

1. Kartana
Fury Cutter + X-Scissor
2. Volcarona
Bug Bite + Bug Buzz
3. Genesect
Fury Cutter + X-Scissor
4. Genesect (Burn)
Fury Cutter + X-Scissor
5. Genesect (Chill)
Fury Cutter + X-Scissor
6. Genesect (Douse)
Fury Cutter + X-Scissor

See the full ranked counter list for Hoopa (Unbound) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.