Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Ho-Oh's top six counters needs 1.42 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.81 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 4:10. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 25.

Ho-Oh · Shadow Tier 3

fireflying

Weak to

rockwaterelectric

Boss CP: 25,853
Boss HP: 4,000
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Ho-Oh at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.04)	3(2.09)	3(2.75)	6:07	6.0
Level 25	2(1.68)	2(1.78)	3(2.38)	5:12	6.0
Level 30	2(1.51)	2(1.58)	3(2.05)	4:37	6.0
Level 35	2(1.44)	2(1.49)	2(1.92)	4:22	6.0
Level 40	2(1.32)	2(1.42)	2(1.81)	4:10	5.9
Level 45	2(1.28)	2(1.36)	2(1.75)	3:59	5.9
Level 50	2(1.20)	2(1.31)	2(1.67)	3:50	5.8

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Rampardos1.32

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Rampardos1.32
Glimmora1.39
Tyrantrum1.39
Rhyperior1.43
Terrakion1.47
Gigalith1.54

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Lycanroc (Dusk)1.75
Stakataka1.71
Omastar1.73
Lycanroc (Midday)1.75
Alolan Golem1.81
Golem1.84

The party these numbers assume

1. Rampardos

Smack Down + Rock Slide

2. Glimmora

Rock Throw + Meteor Beam

3. Tyrantrum

Rock Throw + Meteor Beam

4. Rhyperior

Smack Down + Rock Wrecker

5. Terrakion

Smack Down + Rock Slide

6. Gigalith

Smack Down + Meteor Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Ho-Oh · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.