Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 89,392
- Boss HP
- 25,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.01) | 6(5.36) | 8(7.49) | 24:41 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 5(4.36) | 5(4.41) | 7(6.07) | 20:16 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.66) | 4(3.91) | 6(5.09) | 17:58 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.16) | 4(3.59) | 5(4.78) | 16:30 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.00) | 4(3.40) | 5(4.53) | 15:40 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.79) | 4(3.24) | 5(4.31) | 14:54 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.76) | 4(3.15) | 5(4.14) | 14:29 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)3.00
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)3.00
- Groudon3.09
- Garchomp3.35
- Landorus (Incarnate)3.53
- Rhyperior3.66
- Keldeo3.78
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Donphan4.21
- Hippowdon4.25
- Swampert4.35
- Terrakion4.44
- Golurk4.34
- Golem4.50
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mega Heatran · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.