Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 16,607
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.02) | 3(2.55) | 3(2.92) | 11:44 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.76) | 3(2.24) | 3(2.54) | 10:18 | 5.8 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.59) | 2(1.99) | 3(2.26) | 9:09 | 5.5 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.49) | 2(1.88) | 3(2.16) | 8:40 | 5.3 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.43) | 2(1.81) | 3(2.06) | 8:20 | 5.2 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.39) | 2(1.76) | 2(1.99) | 8:06 | 5.1 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.33) | 2(1.68) | 2(1.92) | 7:44 | 4.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.43
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.43
- Blacephalon1.77
- Darkrai1.81
- Lunala1.95
- Kyurem (Black)1.95
- Chandelure1.95
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Eternatus2.00
- Dragapult2.01
- Gengar2.03
- Giratina (Origin)2.05
- Hoopa2.05
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.05
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Hatenna · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.