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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Gyarados's top six counters needs 2.37 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.25 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 11:13. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Gyarados · Shadow Tier 5
waterflying
Weak to
electricrock
Boss CP
43,756
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Gyarados at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 204(3.68)4(3.86)6(5.05)18:156.0
Level 254(3.05)4(3.20)5(4.27)15:076.0
Level 303(2.55)3(2.72)4(3.72)12:516.0
Level 353(2.38)3(2.54)4(3.50)11:596.0
Level 403(2.24)3(2.37)4(3.25)11:136.0
Level 453(2.11)3(2.27)4(3.13)10:446.0
Level 503(2.04)3(2.17)4(3.01)10:156.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Zeraora2.24

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Zeraora2.24
  • Thundurus (Therian)2.35
  • Zekrom2.36
  • Regieleki2.33
  • Xurkitree2.39
  • Raikou2.58

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Thundurus (Incarnate)2.97
  • Vikavolt3.10
  • Jolteon3.11
  • Mewtwo3.09
  • Kyurem (Black)3.14
  • Toxtricity3.16

The party these numbers assume

1. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
2. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
3. Zekrom
Charge Beam + Fusion Bolt
4. Regieleki
Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage
5. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge
6. Raikou
Thunder Shock + Wild Charge

See the full ranked counter list for Gyarados · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.