Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 16,760
- Boss HP
- 4,000
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.01) | 3(2.18) | 3(2.45) | 6:23 | 5.4 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.61) | 2(1.88) | 3(2.10) | 5:29 | 5.0 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.25) | 2(1.65) | 2(1.85) | 4:49 | 4.6 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.18) | 2(1.57) | 2(1.77) | 4:35 | 4.4 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.17) | 2(1.45) | 2(1.64) | 4:14 | 4.3 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.11) | 2(1.40) | 2(1.60) | 4:06 | 4.1 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.09) | 2(1.37) | 2(1.55) | 4:01 | 3.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.17
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.17
- Darkrai1.41
- Blacephalon1.49
- Hydreigon1.52
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.53
- Eternatus1.55
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Gholdengo1.60
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.61
- Dragapult1.63
- Hisuian Zoroark1.63
- Hoopa (Unbound)1.63
- Incineroar1.63
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Grumpig · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.