Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Grimer's top six counters needs 0.71 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.85 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 2:04. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 25. A duo works from level 20.

Grimer · Shadow Tier 3

poison

Weak to

groundpsychic

Boss CP: 9,721
Boss HP: 4,000
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Grimer at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	1(0.90)	2(1.00)	2(1.21)	2:56	5.0
Level 25	1(0.78)	1(0.86)	2(1.04)	2:31	3.8
Level 30	1(0.69)	1(0.78)	1(0.93)	2:17	2.8
Level 35	1(0.67)	1(0.74)	1(0.88)	2:10	2.4
Level 40	1(0.65)	1(0.71)	1(0.85)	2:04	2.1
Level 45	1(0.61)	1(0.68)	1(0.82)	2:00	1.9
Level 50	1(0.60)	1(0.67)	1(0.79)	1:57	1.8

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Mewtwo0.65

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Mewtwo0.65
Hoopa (Unbound)0.68
Landorus (Therian)0.70
Necrozma (Dusk Mane)0.73
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.74
Groudon0.76

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Eternatus0.83
Latios0.83
Mamoswine0.84
Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)0.84
Metagross0.84
Excadrill0.84

The party these numbers assume

1. Mewtwo

Psycho Cut + Psystrike

2. Hoopa (Unbound)

Confusion + Psychic

3. Landorus (Therian)

Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm

4. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)

Psycho Cut + Sunsteel Strike

5. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)

Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam

6. Groudon

Mud Shot + Precipice Blades

See the full ranked counter list for Grimer · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.