Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Greninja's top six counters needs 0.53 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.63 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:32. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.

Greninja · Tier 3

waterdark

Weak to

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Boss CP: 18,453
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Greninja at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	1(0.66)	1(0.78)	1(0.90)	2:17	5.5
Level 25	1(0.56)	1(0.68)	1(0.77)	1:59	4.7
Level 30	1(0.52)	1(0.59)	1(0.70)	1:44	3.9
Level 35	1(0.49)	1(0.55)	1(0.66)	1:37	3.4
Level 40	1(0.47)	1(0.53)	1(0.63)	1:32	3.0
Level 45	1(0.47)	1(0.52)	1(0.61)	1:30	2.7
Level 50	1(0.44)	1(0.49)	1(0.59)	1:26	2.3

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Keldeo0.47

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Keldeo0.47
Lucario0.53
Kartana0.53
Regieleki0.54
Terrakion0.54
Xurkitree0.55

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Urshifu (Rapid Strike)0.63
Conkeldurr0.62
Tapu Bulu0.62
Zarude0.62
Urshifu (Single Strike)0.63
Raikou0.63

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo

Low Kick + Secret Sword

2. Lucario

Force Palm + Aura Sphere

3. Kartana

Fury Cutter + Sacred Sword

4. Regieleki

Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage

5. Terrakion

Double Kick + Sacred Sword

6. Xurkitree

Thunder Shock + Discharge

See the full ranked counter list for Greninja · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.