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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Alolan Graveler's top six counters needs 0.43 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.56 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:16. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Alolan Graveler · Tier 3
rockelectric
Weak to
groundfightingwatergrass
Boss CP
14,369
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Alolan Graveler at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.54)1(0.60)1(0.78)1:452.9
Level 251(0.47)1(0.53)1(0.68)1:332.0
Level 301(0.42)1(0.47)1(0.62)1:231.4
Level 351(0.39)1(0.46)1(0.59)1:201.2
Level 401(0.37)1(0.43)1(0.56)1:160.9
Level 451(0.36)1(0.42)1(0.55)1:140.9
Level 501(0.36)1(0.41)1(0.53)1:120.8

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Landorus (Therian)0.37

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Landorus (Therian)0.37
  • Groudon0.42
  • Excadrill0.44
  • Mamoswine0.45
  • Garchomp0.45
  • Landorus (Incarnate)0.45

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Donphan0.53
  • Golem0.53
  • Torterra0.55
  • Hippowdon0.55
  • Flygon0.55
  • Lucario0.55

The party these numbers assume

1. Landorus (Therian)
Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm
2. Groudon
Mud Shot + Precipice Blades
3. Excadrill
Mud-Slap + Scorching Sands
4. Mamoswine
Mud-Slap + High Horsepower
5. Garchomp
Mud Shot + Earth Power
6. Landorus (Incarnate)
Mud Shot + Earth Power

See the full ranked counter list for Alolan Graveler · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.