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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 21h 34m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Gourgeist (Super)'s top six counters needs 0.65 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.80 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:55. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Gourgeist (Super) · Tier 3
ghostgrass
Weak to
flyingghostfireicedark
Boss CP
17,331
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Gourgeist (Super) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.84)1(0.98)2(1.15)2:525.2
Level 251(0.76)1(0.86)1(1.00)2:304.5
Level 301(0.67)1(0.73)1(0.88)2:083.8
Level 351(0.64)1(0.69)1(0.84)2:013.3
Level 401(0.62)1(0.65)1(0.80)1:553.0
Level 451(0.60)1(0.63)1(0.77)1:502.8
Level 501(0.58)1(0.60)1(0.75)1:462.5

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.62

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.62
  • Rayquaza0.64
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.63
  • Kyurem (Black)0.64
  • Reshiram0.70
  • Blacephalon0.70

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Honchkrow0.78
  • Heatran0.79
  • Blaziken0.79
  • Staraptor0.79
  • Galarian Articuno0.79
  • Cinderace0.81

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
3. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam
4. Kyurem (Black)
Shadow Claw + Freeze Shock
5. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare
6. Blacephalon
Astonish + Mind Blown

See the full ranked counter list for Gourgeist (Super) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.