Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 75,369
- Boss HP
- 25,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.98) | 5(4.04) | 6(5.79) | 18:36 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 4(3.64) | 4(3.48) | 5(4.71) | 16:00 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.21) | 4(3.07) | 5(4.17) | 14:09 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.89) | 3(2.91) | 4(3.94) | 13:22 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.57) | 3(2.77) | 4(3.74) | 12:44 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.43) | 3(2.63) | 4(3.55) | 12:05 | 5.9 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.32) | 3(2.51) | 4(3.40) | 11:32 | 5.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)2.57
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)2.57
- Groudon2.67
- Excadrill2.78
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.82
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.86
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)2.91
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
4 trainers at level 40
- Golurk3.44
- Mewtwo3.54
- Mudsdale3.55
- Donphan3.58
- Hippowdon3.57
- Golem3.77
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mega Glimmora · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.