Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 25,205
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.07) | 3(2.31) | 3(2.63) | 10:38 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.78) | 2(1.99) | 3(2.28) | 9:10 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.62) | 2(1.78) | 3(2.04) | 8:10 | 5.9 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.53) | 2(1.68) | 2(1.95) | 7:45 | 5.9 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.47) | 2(1.62) | 2(1.86) | 7:27 | 5.8 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.41) | 2(1.56) | 2(1.79) | 7:10 | 5.8 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.36) | 2(1.50) | 2(1.74) | 6:53 | 5.8 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kartana1.47
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kartana1.47
- Kyogre1.62
- Shaymin (Sky)1.61
- Inteleon1.62
- Zarude1.69
- Rillaboom1.69
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)1.78
- Roserade1.80
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.83
- Breloom1.83
- Decidueye1.84
- Tapu Bulu1.85
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Geodude · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.