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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 15h 47m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Gengar's top six counters needs 1.15 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.40 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 3:22. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 20.
Gengar · Shadow Tier 3
ghostpoison
Weak to
groundghostpsychicdark
Boss CP
22,354
Boss HP
4,000
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Gengar at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 202(1.37)2(1.89)3(2.24)5:325.9
Level 252(1.23)2(1.50)2(1.83)4:235.7
Level 302(1.13)2(1.32)2(1.57)3:525.4
Level 352(1.05)2(1.22)2(1.48)3:355.2
Level 402(1.01)2(1.15)2(1.40)3:225.1
Level 451(0.97)2(1.11)2(1.35)3:154.9
Level 501(0.96)2(1.08)2(1.29)3:094.7

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.01

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.01
  • Mewtwo1.07
  • Landorus (Therian)1.16
  • Hoopa (Unbound)1.16
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.22
  • Giratina (Origin)1.28

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Salamence1.36
  • Tyranitar1.36
  • Latios1.36
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.38
  • Hisuian Zoroark1.37
  • Metagross1.38

The party these numbers assume

1. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam
2. Mewtwo
Psycho Cut + Psystrike
3. Landorus (Therian)
Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm
4. Hoopa (Unbound)
Confusion + Psychic
5. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Psycho Cut + Sunsteel Strike
6. Giratina (Origin)
Shadow Claw + Shadow Force

See the full ranked counter list for Gengar · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.