Skip to content
PoGoBud
Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 1d 2h

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Gardevoir's top six counters needs 0.60 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.85 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:46. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Gardevoir · Tier 3
psychicfairy
Weak to
poisonghoststeel
Boss CP
21,910
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Gardevoir at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.75)1(0.88)2(1.30)2:345.2
Level 251(0.66)1(0.77)2(1.08)2:154.3
Level 301(0.58)1(0.67)1(0.93)1:573.5
Level 351(0.56)1(0.64)1(0.89)1:533.0
Level 401(0.51)1(0.60)1(0.85)1:462.6
Level 451(0.52)1(0.58)1(0.82)1:422.3
Level 501(0.49)1(0.56)1(0.79)1:392.1

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.51

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.51
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)0.53
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)0.55
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.57
  • Eternatus0.71
  • Metagross0.74

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.83
  • Dialga (Origin)0.83
  • Chandelure0.83
  • Gholdengo0.84
  • Naganadel0.86
  • Excadrill0.85

The party these numbers assume

1. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Blade
2. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash
3. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Metal Claw + Sunsteel Strike
4. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Metal Claw + Moongeist Beam
5. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Sludge Bomb
6. Metagross
Bullet Punch + Meteor Mash

See the full ranked counter list for Gardevoir · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.