Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 69,489
- Boss HP
- 25,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.60) | 5(4.51) | 7(6.40) | 20:46 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 4(3.15) | 5(4.02) | 6(5.28) | 18:29 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.80) | 4(3.44) | 5(4.51) | 15:51 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.62) | 4(3.25) | 5(4.25) | 14:58 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.54) | 4(3.07) | 5(4.09) | 14:08 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.48) | 3(2.98) | 4(3.92) | 13:43 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.42) | 3(2.85) | 4(3.78) | 13:07 | 5.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.54
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.54
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.59
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)2.64
- Reshiram3.45
- Kyurem (White)3.54
- Darkrai3.68
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Rampardos4.04
- Darmanitan (Standard)4.06
- Eternatus4.06
- Volcarona4.07
- Dialga (Origin)4.07
- Lucario4.09
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mega Froslass · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.