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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 23h 47m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Froslass's top six counters needs 1.33 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.82 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 6:08. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 25.
Froslass · Tier 5
iceghost
Weak to
rockghoststeelfiredark
Boss CP
29,261
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Froslass at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 202(1.65)3(2.06)3(2.63)9:296.0
Level 252(1.42)2(1.75)3(2.28)8:045.9
Level 302(1.28)2(1.50)3(2.02)6:545.7
Level 352(1.22)2(1.42)2(1.91)6:335.6
Level 402(1.17)2(1.33)2(1.82)6:085.5
Level 452(1.13)2(1.28)2(1.76)5:545.4
Level 502(1.11)2(1.23)2(1.70)5:395.3

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.17

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.17
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)1.20
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.24
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.36
  • Blacephalon1.46
  • Reshiram1.58

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Blaziken1.77
  • Volcarona1.78
  • Hydreigon1.79
  • Darmanitan (Standard)1.80
  • Tyranitar1.80
  • Rampardos1.81

The party these numbers assume

1. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Blade
2. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash
3. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Metal Claw + Sunsteel Strike
4. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Metal Claw + Moongeist Beam
5. Blacephalon
Astonish + Mind Blown
6. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

See the full ranked counter list for Froslass · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.