Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Florges's top six counters needs 2.26 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.13 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 10:24. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.

Florges · Tier 5

fairy

Weak to

poisonsteel

Boss CP: 44,742
Boss HP: 15,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Florges at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.70)	4(3.21)	5(4.48)	14:46	6.0
Level 25	3(2.25)	3(2.81)	4(3.86)	12:56	5.9
Level 30	2(1.99)	3(2.44)	4(3.42)	11:14	5.8
Level 35	2(1.90)	3(2.35)	4(3.28)	10:50	5.6
Level 40	2(1.85)	3(2.26)	4(3.13)	10:24	5.5
Level 45	2(1.82)	3(2.19)	3(3.00)	10:06	5.5
Level 50	2(1.69)	3(2.12)	3(2.90)	9:45	5.2

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.85

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.85
Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.90
Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)1.92
Eternatus2.53
Metagross2.59
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.78

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

Tinkaton2.94
Excadrill3.02
Roserade3.09
Genesect3.11
Genesect (Burn)3.11
Genesect (Chill)3.11

The party these numbers assume

1. Zacian (Crowned Sword)

Metal Claw + Behemoth Blade

2. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)

Metal Claw + Sunsteel Strike

3. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)

Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash

4. Eternatus

Poison Jab + Sludge Bomb

5. Metagross

Bullet Punch + Meteor Mash

6. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)

Metal Claw + Moongeist Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Florges · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.