Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Fennekin's top six counters needs 0.42 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.48 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:14. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.

Fennekin · Tier 3

fire

Weak to

groundrockwater

Boss CP: 8,501
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Fennekin at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	1(0.51)	1(0.57)	1(0.65)	1:40	2.5
Level 25	1(0.46)	1(0.51)	1(0.57)	1:29	1.6
Level 30	1(0.43)	1(0.46)	1(0.52)	1:21	1.2
Level 35	1(0.42)	1(0.44)	1(0.49)	1:17	0.9
Level 40	1(0.40)	1(0.42)	1(0.48)	1:14	0.7
Level 45	1(0.37)	1(0.41)	1(0.46)	1:11	0.6
Level 50	1(0.36)	1(0.39)	1(0.45)	1:09	0.5

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Landorus (Therian)0.40

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Landorus (Therian)0.40
Kyogre0.42
Inteleon0.42
Rampardos0.42
Glimmora0.43
Greninja0.44

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.46
Excadrill0.47
Primarina0.47
Mamoswine0.48
Regigigas0.48
Tyrantrum0.48

The party these numbers assume

1. Landorus (Therian)

Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm

2. Kyogre

Waterfall + Origin Pulse

3. Inteleon

Water Gun + Hydro Cannon

4. Rampardos

Smack Down + Rock Slide

5. Glimmora

Rock Throw + Meteor Beam

6. Greninja

Water Shuriken + Hydro Cannon

See the full ranked counter list for Fennekin · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.