Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Electivire's top six counters needs 1.38 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.74 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 4:03. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 25.

Electivire · Shadow Tier 3

electric

Weak to

ground

Boss CP: 22,276
Boss HP: 4,000
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Electivire at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.39)	3(2.12)	3(2.50)	6:12	5.8
Level 25	2(1.50)	2(1.71)	3(2.18)	5:00	5.5
Level 30	2(1.37)	2(1.51)	2(1.92)	4:25	5.1
Level 35	2(1.35)	2(1.46)	2(1.82)	4:17	4.9
Level 40	2(1.30)	2(1.38)	2(1.74)	4:03	4.7
Level 45	2(1.16)	2(1.33)	2(1.68)	3:53	4.5
Level 50	2(1.12)	2(1.30)	2(1.63)	3:48	4.2

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Landorus (Therian)1.30

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Landorus (Therian)1.30
Groudon1.33
Eternatus1.35
Excadrill1.44
Kyurem (Black)1.42
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.45

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Krookodile1.68
Kyurem (White)1.68
Golurk1.68
Rhydon1.69
Ursaluna1.71
Baxcalibur1.74

The party these numbers assume

1. Landorus (Therian)

Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm

2. Groudon

Mud Shot + Precipice Blades

3. Eternatus

Dragon Tail + Dynamax Cannon

4. Excadrill

Mud-Slap + Scorching Sands

5. Kyurem (Black)

Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock

6. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)

Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Electivire · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.