Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Electivire's top six counters needs 0.67 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.84 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:58. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.

Electivire · Tier 3

electric

Weak to

ground

Boss CP: 21,133
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Electivire at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	1(0.86)	1(0.96)	2(1.27)	2:48	5.1
Level 25	1(0.74)	1(0.83)	2(1.07)	2:27	4.1
Level 30	1(0.69)	1(0.75)	1(0.93)	2:12	3.2
Level 35	1(0.68)	1(0.71)	1(0.89)	2:04	2.8
Level 40	1(0.59)	1(0.67)	1(0.84)	1:58	2.4
Level 45	1(0.55)	1(0.65)	1(0.82)	1:54	2.2
Level 50	1(0.54)	1(0.62)	1(0.79)	1:50	1.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Landorus (Therian)0.59

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Landorus (Therian)0.59
Groudon0.66
Eternatus0.68
Excadrill0.70
Mamoswine0.70
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.72

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Krookodile0.80
Keldeo0.82
Rhydon0.81
Golurk0.83
Hippowdon0.84
Mudsdale0.85

The party these numbers assume

1. Landorus (Therian)

Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm

2. Groudon

Mud Shot + Precipice Blades

3. Eternatus

Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon

4. Excadrill

Mud-Slap + Scorching Sands

5. Mamoswine

Mud-Slap + High Horsepower

6. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)

Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Electivire · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.