Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 16,201
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.40) | 3(2.58) | 4(3.17) | 12:11 | 5.3 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.09) | 3(2.30) | 3(2.75) | 10:52 | 4.9 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.88) | 3(2.07) | 3(2.49) | 9:45 | 4.4 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.80) | 2(1.96) | 3(2.38) | 9:15 | 4.2 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.72) | 2(1.89) | 3(2.27) | 8:55 | 3.9 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.67) | 2(1.84) | 3(2.20) | 8:42 | 3.6 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.60) | 2(1.79) | 3(2.13) | 8:28 | 3.5 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Mewtwo1.72
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Mewtwo1.72
- Hoopa (Unbound)1.82
- Landorus (Therian)1.87
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.96
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.95
- Groudon2.03
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Espeon2.19
- Latios2.20
- Excadrill2.22
- Metagross2.23
- Garchomp2.26
- Azelf2.25
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Ekans · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.