Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 18,073
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.78) | 4(3.42) | 5(4.00) | 15:45 | 5.6 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.47) | 4(3.04) | 4(3.45) | 14:00 | 5.1 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.16) | 3(2.73) | 4(3.11) | 12:33 | 4.6 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.09) | 3(2.62) | 3(2.97) | 12:05 | 4.4 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.99) | 3(2.49) | 3(2.83) | 11:28 | 4.2 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.94) | 3(2.41) | 3(2.75) | 11:07 | 4.0 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.86) | 3(2.35) | 3(2.65) | 10:49 | 3.8 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.99
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.99
- Darkrai2.48
- Blacephalon2.50
- Kyurem (Black)2.63
- Lunala2.67
- Absol2.69
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.78
- Gholdengo2.80
- Hoopa (Unbound)2.81
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.83
- Giratina (Origin)2.82
- Hoopa2.83
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Drowzee · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.