Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 8,725
- Boss HP
- 4,000
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 1(0.71) | 1(0.85) | 2(1.09) | 2:29 | 4.3 |
| Level 25 | 1(0.64) | 1(0.74) | 1(0.96) | 2:09 | 3.1 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.56) | 1(0.67) | 1(0.86) | 1:57 | 2.3 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.53) | 1(0.64) | 1(0.82) | 1:52 | 2.1 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.51) | 1(0.61) | 1(0.79) | 1:47 | 1.7 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.50) | 1(0.60) | 1(0.77) | 1:45 | 1.6 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.49) | 1(0.58) | 1(0.75) | 1:41 | 1.4 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Eternatus0.51
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Eternatus0.51
- Kyurem (Black)0.54
- Kyurem (White)0.61
- Palkia (Origin)0.65
- Baxcalibur0.66
- Rayquaza0.68
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
1 trainer at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.75
- Garchomp0.74
- Kyurem0.78
- Dialga0.77
- Dragonite0.78
- Reshiram0.78
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Dratini · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.