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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Dragonite's top six counters needs 0.51 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.69 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:29. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Dragonite · Tier 3
dragonflying
Weak to
icerockdragonfairy
Boss CP
24,343
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Dragonite at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.64)1(0.82)2(1.05)2:245.8
Level 251(0.49)1(0.66)1(0.89)1:575.3
Level 301(0.43)1(0.57)1(0.77)1:394.5
Level 351(0.40)1(0.53)1(0.73)1:334.2
Level 401(0.39)1(0.51)1(0.69)1:293.8
Level 451(0.37)1(0.48)1(0.67)1:243.3
Level 501(0.35)1(0.46)1(0.64)1:213.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.39

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.39
  • Kyurem (Black)0.43
  • Eternatus0.50
  • Baxcalibur0.55
  • Galarian Darmanitan (Standard)0.58
  • Mamoswine0.58

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Mr. Rime0.65
  • Mewtwo0.66
  • Jynx0.69
  • Dialga (Origin)0.69
  • Palkia (Origin)0.68
  • Avalugg0.70

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
3. Eternatus
Dragon Tail + Dynamax Cannon
4. Baxcalibur
Ice Fang + Avalanche
5. Galarian Darmanitan (Standard)
Ice Fang + Avalanche
6. Mamoswine
Powder Snow + Avalanche

See the full ranked counter list for Dragonite · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.