Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 39,844
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.05) | 5(4.05) | 6(5.25) | 18:37 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.63) | 4(3.15) | 5(4.19) | 14:31 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.37) | 3(2.83) | 4(3.69) | 13:00 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.28) | 3(2.66) | 4(3.47) | 12:14 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.11) | 3(2.56) | 4(3.36) | 11:47 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.95) | 3(2.46) | 4(3.24) | 11:19 | 5.9 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.00) | 3(2.38) | 4(3.15) | 10:58 | 5.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Eternatus2.11
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Eternatus2.11
- Kyurem (Black)2.34
- Kyurem (White)2.52
- Palkia (Origin)2.78
- Baxcalibur2.80
- Dialga (Origin)2.81
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
4 trainers at level 40
- Salamence3.23
- Groudon3.23
- Dialga3.27
- Palkia3.29
- Kyurem3.28
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)3.37
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Dracozolt · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.