Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 20,482
- Boss HP
- 4,000
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.77) | 3(2.01) | 3(2.51) | 5:54 | 5.9 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.48) | 2(1.75) | 3(2.13) | 5:07 | 5.7 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.30) | 2(1.53) | 2(1.90) | 4:28 | 5.5 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.26) | 2(1.46) | 2(1.73) | 4:16 | 5.4 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.18) | 2(1.40) | 2(1.65) | 4:05 | 5.2 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.14) | 2(1.34) | 2(1.59) | 3:56 | 5.2 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.11) | 2(1.30) | 2(1.53) | 3:48 | 5.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.18
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.18
- Kyurem (Black)1.33
- Kartana1.42
- Shaymin (Sky)1.45
- Zarude1.50
- Kyogre1.51
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.55
- Meowscarada1.61
- Inteleon1.61
- Greninja1.62
- Swampert1.66
- Roserade1.65
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Donphan · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.