Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 45,800
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 5(4.61) | 6(5.32) | 7(6.52) | 24:29 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 4(3.65) | 5(4.29) | 6(5.43) | 19:45 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.21) | 4(3.74) | 5(4.69) | 17:12 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.02) | 4(3.59) | 5(4.43) | 16:32 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.90) | 4(3.43) | 5(4.11) | 15:46 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.78) | 4(3.27) | 4(3.96) | 15:04 | 5.9 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.71) | 4(3.16) | 4(3.81) | 14:33 | 5.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)2.90
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)2.90
- Kyurem (Black)3.30
- Shaymin (Sky)3.45
- Kartana3.64
- Kyogre3.58
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)3.70
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Meowscarada4.00
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)3.90
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)4.07
- Tapu Bulu4.08
- Baxcalibur4.14
- Tangrowth4.10
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Donphan · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.