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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 21h 42m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Donphan's top six counters needs 2.00 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.37 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 9:12. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 45.
Donphan · Tier 5
ground
Weak to
watergrassice
Boss CP
39,663
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Donphan at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.49)3(2.91)4(3.71)13:246.0
Level 253(2.14)3(2.53)4(3.10)11:386.0
Level 302(1.87)3(2.23)3(2.65)10:176.0
Level 352(1.80)3(2.09)3(2.50)9:375.9
Level 402(1.72)3(2.00)3(2.37)9:125.9
Level 452(1.62)2(1.92)3(2.29)8:505.9
Level 502(1.57)2(1.84)3(2.21)8:285.8

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.72

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.72
  • Kyurem (Black)1.94
  • Kartana1.96
  • Shaymin (Sky)2.07
  • Zarude2.17
  • Inteleon2.15

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.28
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.32
  • Roserade2.32
  • Primarina2.34
  • Greninja2.32
  • Kingler2.31

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
3. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade
4. Shaymin (Sky)
Magical Leaf + Grass Knot
5. Zarude
Vine Whip + Power Whip
6. Inteleon
Water Gun + Hydro Cannon

See the full ranked counter list for Donphan · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.