Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 6 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 61,654
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.70) | 7(6.69) | 9(8.19) | 30:47 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 6(5.29) | 6(5.73) | 7(6.73) | 26:22 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 5(4.21) | 5(4.89) | 6(5.96) | 22:31 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.66) | 5(4.27) | 6(5.60) | 19:40 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.19) | 4(3.94) | 6(5.28) | 18:08 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.05) | 4(3.70) | 5(4.84) | 17:02 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.99) | 4(3.60) | 5(4.53) | 16:34 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Keldeo3.19
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Keldeo3.19
- Lucario3.67
- Terrakion3.81
- Kartana4.23
- Groudon4.30
- Urshifu (Rapid Strike)4.43
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
6 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)4.74
- Marshadow4.77
- Conkeldurr4.96
- Gallade5.00
- Rhyperior5.21
- Mewtwo5.11
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Dialga · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.